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Thursday, January 22, 2009

why why why Betfair....

Why are they such a poorly run pokersite? The mistakes are endless and the treatment of players often disgusting. They often change the rules midway through promotions amd have been known to do things such as trying to illegally deposit money from peoples accounts back to them (after the SNG sting). For fifteen weeks they have run a new SNG leaderboard. I have won one of two a week for the entire promotion, obviously they won't like this. When a fat bald foreigner won every week they loved it and sponsored Buzzer. Some days I have played several hundred games, in fact the most I played in one day was 371.

Now we have last week, a player who plays under the alias arbboy emailed betfair saying I was punterz08 and mrkangaroo. I use the mrkangaroo account to forum post and many people know who it is, it most certainly is not me. I came second on the leaderboard to mrkangaroo and still hadn't been paid three days later so I phoned them. Now the irony here is that arbboy has cheated betfair out of thousands of pounds of commission. He openly posted on forums how he let people use his account for poker to get his commission % on the lowest possible rate. This has no doubt cost betfair thousands of pounds in lost fees from commission on their sportsbook. As usual the guilty are the first ones to point fingers.

Here is my email from betfair:

Dear Lee,

Following an investigation into your account’s activity we have reason to believe that your account (Punterz08) was accessed from the same machine as account Mr.Kangaroo. In some instances these logins are only seconds apart and since the two accounts occupied the top spots in the week’s leaderboard, the matter was brought to our attention.



Whilst this might be purely coincidental an/or justifiable, it is in everyone’s interest to defend the integrity of the game. In view of this it would be excellent if you could provide is with an explanation of why and/or how this might have happened in order for us to be to conclude our investigation. In addition, please be advised that the leaderboard prize payout has been put on hold pending the conclusion of this investigation.



Please also be advised that our Helpdesk will not be able to assist you with any enquiries. Any correspondence should be forwarded to verification@betfair.com.

Kind Regards,

Verification Team

verification@betfair.com
www.betfair.com
Helpdesk Tel: 0844 871 0000


Now if you have any problems with mrkangaroo contact him not me, if you don't want to pay him first spot promote me from second place to first and pay me even more. My account makes me in excess of £100,000 a year and turns over over a million pounds a year paying over £100,000 in fees. Why on earth can't betfair see commonsense and realise a few hundred pounds is not something that would bother me. It seems as though betfair poker since taken over by Bruce Stubbs wants to alienate every single big player they have. The likes of duffs, mandylou,deejay, shaa etc etc were betfair diehards and now they hate betfair. It really is surely a matter of time before something big, ugly and embarrassing happens to betfair poker. People keep saying to me why do you still mainly play there. The figures I mention at the start of this paragraph are the reason why.

As for people multi accounting (I have one) if betfair were really bothered why not do something about it. On all pokersites you are allowed only one account except for betfair. They let people have master accounts for sportsbook enabling them to have up to five poker accounts. You are then allowed another account via badbeat if you wish. At the highest stakes people are combining bankrolls and letting five or more people use the account. A player called Giorgio56 has been subject to many complaints from betfair players yet is still allowed to operate. One must assume that he bets a lot on the sportsbook. He has played another player in around forty $1000 games and lost every single one. To lose 40/40 is virtually impossible and we all know something is not right yet betfair do nothing about him.

So will betfair do anything about the multi accounts? After all Sorrell Mizzi famous multi accounting cheat got a sponsorship deal with betfair when they had the knowledge in the past he had been banned for cheating and multiaccounting. I think they will do nothing, but because I post on somebody elses forum account they will happily use this as an excuse to withhold £1000 from me pending an investigation. Just another case of betfair poker trying to lose another well known player.I shall not even log into the kangaroo account to use the chat again, so when week after week we get 1st and 2nd what will the excuse be then? Between us we pay £20,000 a month in fees to poker sites. What a joke of a site it is becoming. Literally a matter of time before something big legally or financially happens to them.

Finally one last thing betfair could have looked at before all of this nonsense..



Rake for punterz08 since start:
January 09
£6,281.33

Last updated 22/01/09

The fees I have paid after three weeks of the month are equal or higher than any of the previous 6 months. If it was me playing both accounts then I would have raked way less on this account and have my average spread over the two accounts. Why are they so stupid. There is such a liquidity problem on betfair in January come the end of the month why would I have raked 50% more than usual!

2 comments:

rubbish said...

Hi Punter,

I'm only a low stakes player so I don't even qualify for rake back on Betfair. If it wasn't for the fact that most of my gambling dosh was tied up on Betfair then I wouldn't even play there. They even shafted me on the Merchandise mountain promotion which I still haven't received and have given up on.

I'm guessing just about every site would welcome you with open arms considering the amount you put through the tables every month. Surely you could get a better deal, buy ins to live tournies etc. with ipoker or someone?

Hope you get your dosh off them.

All the best

Neilc999 said...

why do you consistantly complain about betfair but never leave. Theres so many other sites to play at with much better reputations.
Just move.
Its there loss due to the amout of rake you generate and youll easily get a rakeback deal elsewhere.
But you already know all this.

SO WHY?!?!?!